Does the monster torque of the YZ250F make it that much better than the light and snappy YZ125? We have to dig a little deeper than what the media and forms says to figure out what stroke is better in this YZ125 vs YZ250F comparison. I think we all know that most motocross companies have been pushing for the four-strokes because they are âeco-friendlyâ by not producing as much pollution as the two-strokes, as well as costing much more to repair because there are twice as many parts that can break. But for this battle we will totally scratch those opinionated facts out because they donât mean a thing in the motocross realm. Yamaha YZ125 Vs. YZ250F I have ridden Yamahaâs YZ250Fâs and YZ125âs, and can say that they are two different kind of animals. Both Yamaha motocross bikes have plenty of power and will require some balls to ride fast, but are about as reliable as you can get as far as motocross bikes go. Each bike has its ups and downs, but the question is, âwhich one is better overall?â Well youâll have to wait until the next article after I do a little more research on these bikesâŠJust kidding. YZ125 2 Stroke Review Thereâs many reasons why Iâve had several YZ125âs â more than any other 125 2 stroke â over the years. The light-weight makes it flick-able, the raw horsepower begs it to be revved to the moon, and the suspension is top notch. Thereâs no question that this bike is ready to race right out of the box. Although you might have to re-jet the carburetor if you are riding in an extreme climate. How Does It Handle? Pretty much any modern 125 two-stroke is going to handle well these days, and the YZ is no exception. The handling is among the best in its class. It will ride any berm and the front end will stick pretty well in those pesky ruts. What I like about the 125 is that it has a really low center of gravity compared to the four-stroke, so it made it a lot easier to lay in down in the corners. I am a shorter rider 5â6â, so having a bike that handles well in corners is a must. The YZ125 felt comfortable to ride and cockpit was narrow while the 250F was a little more bulky. Whatâs The Suspension Like? You want good suspension? You got it! The YZ125 suspension set-up is great right off the showroom floor. If you weigh more than 180 or less than 140 lbs then you might want to consider getting some softer fork and shock springs though. The stock suspension has really good bottoming resistance and can handle a lot. It feels great on any kind of obstacle. Although it may be a little mushy for A or pro riders. The forks soaked up most of the braking bumps and the bike was very controllable in the air and in the corners. It felt stable at all speeds. What About the Engine? The engine may be the two-strokesâ greatest set-back against the 250f, but it is no slouch. Any skilled rider will be competitive on this little ripper. The YZ125 may not have the torque that the 250F does, but it has the horsepower to make up for it. Yamahaâs 125 is known for itâs do-it-all engine. It does have more bottom-end power than any other 125 two-stroke Iâve ridden. The mid-range has some punch, and the top-end is never-ending fun. All you have to do is keep this bike on the pipe then you will be able to pass those 250Fâs, thatâs it. Additional Notes⊠Above are the main topics that riders ask about when deciding which bike to get. I just wanted to give you a few more facts about this bike that could factor into your decision. The YZ125 is a great motocross bike to start out on, and is perfect for younger riders just stepping up from and 85 that donât want a big four-stroke. This bike is cheaper and easier to maintain. The cost to rebuild a 125 2 stroke will be less expensive than a 250F just because itâs a two-stroke and has less moving internal parts. That doesnât mean you will be spending less, because if you donât maintain it, it will break down eventually. The YZ125 has always been very easy to start. If itâs not, then you have a problem. One of the only extra things you have to do to this bike is add pre-mix to the gas before you put it in the tank and ride. YZ250F 4 Stroke Review Itâs bigger⊠Itâs badder⊠Is it too much for the two-smoker to handle??? The YZ250F has been the top selling 250cc four-stroke motocross bike. Is there a reason for this? There must be, so letâs check it out! Does It Handle As Well? A simple question, and it will be responded with a simple answer⊠âyes.â You can do anything you want to the bike, such as lowering the radiators, reducing the weight, or shaving the seat, but itâs never going to handle as well as the two-stroke unless you do major modifications. That does not mean it handles poorly. Over the years Yamaha has turned their YZ250F tank into one of the best handling four-stroke dirt bikes. The newer the model, the better it gets. The main difference between this bike and the 125 is that itâs top-heavy, meaning the center of gravity is at a higher location on the bike, causing it to be less stable. This is most noticed in the corners, so laying it down will be a little more difficult for shorter or younger riders. How About Suspension? Suspension on the 250F is great for 140-175 lb amateurs, similar to the 125. It has good bottoming resistance and handled jumps with ease. Not much else to say except that the suspension on the YZ250Fâs worked well for me. Does The Engine Make Up For It? The first time I rode a YZ250F I was blown away. Torque across the entire rev-range was unbelievable. This bike gives you the traction and power down low that you will never get from the 125. The âpower-bandâ is not as fun as the two-stroke. The torque, though, will pull any 2-stroke out of corners. After riding a 250F for a while, the smooth, yet powerful engine just got a littleâŠâŠ I donât know if I should say itâŠ. boring. It just wasnât as fun to ride around on as the two-stroke. Racing the YZ250F would be a different story. Itâs not exactly about riding whichever bike is more fun, itâs about riding faster and more comfortably than the other riders. This bike helps out a lot on that part, but is it good enough to beat the 125? Notes The YZ250F was the first four-stroke motocross bike in the 125 class, and has been the most reliable 250F the entire time. Take care of it and it will take care of you. The first years, 2001 & 2002, the bike had manual-decompression, making it a little more difficult and time-consuming to start. That can be fixed with an â03 or newer exhaust cam because Yamaha switched to auto-decompression. The YZF250 is probably the easiest 250F to kick start. I was usually able to start mine in 1-2 kicks when they were cold. The bad part about owning a 250F is that it can grenade if you donât maintain it properly. If it does just âhappenâ to blow up, the cost of repairs can be enormous, especially if you have a shop to do it. This is one of the only reasons why I donât like the four-stroke motocross bikes, otherwise I would buy more of them. And the Winner is⊠Neither bike, because they are just as good as each otherâŠâŠ You didnât want to hear that, did you? Good, because itâs not true! After comparing the characteristics of these bikes that have been rivaling each other for the past decade, there are still pros and cons that each bikes has. My decision would be to go with the YZ125 because I love two-strokes and donât like big bills when they explode. For a racing scenario where money is no option and the only goal was to win then I will choose the YZ250F. It has the torque and horsepower that will beat the 125 on almost any track, the suspension is great for me out of the box, and itâs just plain easier to ride faster. Thatâs why the Yamaha YZ250F is still the better bike in most cases for this match-up. Furthermore, there are so many variables to consider because not every rider is the same and rides similar terrain. If you have a big bank and want to be on par by technology standards then the 250F is the bike for you. If listening to a two-stroke WOT is music to your hears, and you want to learn better riding techniques as well as a bike thatâs easier to maintain then a YZ125 is a perfect bike. YZ250 vs YZ250F How about the YZ250 2 stroke, is that a better comparison to the YZ250F? Click here to find out.
ï»żAwasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 Hay guys, I looking at getting used a bike for riding the local trails. I might take it to the track and dunes for kicks once in a while. I looking at the 2006 or newer YZ125 and 250s. I'm 5'10" 165 lbs, I have rode quads most my life and have spent very little time on a dirt bike. My main concern with a 125 is would i need to ride the snot out of it to really get it to move, and woud I be doing top ends all the time, and with the 250 I'm wondering if it would be as light felling and flickable as the 125. If you have spent any time on these bikes what do you think, or if you have herd of anything that might help make my decision is easier please let me know! Thanks in advance. 125 is only fun in the dunes for very small amounts. Very underpowered for real dune romping. The 250 is a great bike with a large following and huge aftermarket. considering your weight i am sure yz125 would be ample power. I guess you need to consider are you a person who like to try to take the beast and show throttle control yz250 or someone who would like to ride all out and not be concerned about whiskey throttle yz125. I would also consider a ktm 200 if i were you, it is in the middle of the two yz's and with better parts from the factory than yamaha! I loved my yz125 but my KTM200 is better in nearly every way. Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 If I got a 125 and rode it hard how often would I be doing top end rebuilds compared to the 250? Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 I got the chance to ride a YZ125 and really liked it. I'm going to try to test out a YZ250, but the 125 seems to be perfect for what I want to do. Thank you all for your help! Top end maintenance will vary wildly based on usage, parts used, and opinion. Some guys swear a 125 will need top ends every 15 hours, others say once a year regardless of hours. Same deal with 250's, some swear 25 hours max, others claim never. My neighbor was in that last catagory, I think it was around year 6 that the cast piston let go and destroyed everything rod broke, cylinder hammered, crank obviously needed rebuilt to replace the rod, etc. Bike had somewhere between 100 and 1 million hours on it at the time he had no idea I typically did 30-40 hours playing on the 125's between top ends, and 50-ish on the 250, a bit longer if running a forged piston. Some guys claim 200-300 hours. I was running B and then A class hare scrambles and enduros. I'll say again, a 125 in the dunes is fun only long enough to say you did it. I'd take my old KDX220 modded before my 125 to the dunes. That said, if I were chosing between a 125 and 250 right now, I'd go 125. They are just so much fun! 5'9" and 190 lbs. Man, I can't make up my mind on which bike to get next. I have a few on my list right now. For some reason I would love to have a 125 in the garage. I have never owned one. Been a while since I have rode one. Seems like it would be a very fun bike. Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 I found a 2000 YZ125, almost in top shape for $800, but it doesn't have a title, does anyone know how much it would cost to get one? Thanks for all your help! The cost and process of getting a title will depend on what state you are in. Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 I'm in washington state. If you don't know the price in my state, what is the price that you know of? Takes 3 years and a state patrol inspection... I think $130??? Pain in the rear it sounds like. IMO 125 is going to take an expert rider to keep it on the pipe on any tech singletrack. I know the Huskys bored to 160 are awesome but not sure you can get the same results on a Yamaha. I don't have it posted for sale but I have a very nice and woods setup plated CR250 that is a great trail bike if you are interested. Very similar ride to yz250. I really love riding it but my wife says I can't ride three bikes at once .. Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 I know lots of people ride MX bikes on the trails. I have done this in the past and I feel that MX bikes are for riding MX. You can take an MX bike and make it into a trail bike, but suddenly that cheap, amazing deal isn't quite so amazing after all the mods to change your MX bike into a trail bike. I'm of the opinion to either buy a purpose built trail bike KTM 125/150/200/250/300 EXC/XCW, or what ever or buy a MX bike that someone else has already done all the mods to make into a trail bike. I think that most people ride MX bikes simply because you will find at least a dozen on the used market for every one trail bike you find. Goodluck either way. Not a full answer, but 3 seconds of google gave this Spend a little time and dig into it. Last time I did it in Michigan it cost like $15. The YZ125 can be made pretty trailable with the right 144 setup. Lots of guys swear the SSS suspension is perfect everywhere from freestyle ramps to trials rock gardens, I dont know what they are smoking. My 250 took a lot of suspension work, but the engine could have should have? stayed stock. Biggest issue was the transmission, 5 close ratio gears sucked. Greatly longed for my old KDX gearbox. The YZ I ended up gearing up 1 tooth on front for faster sections, and then just improved riding until 1st was no longer too tall. Really though, any bike will have trade offs, and a lot depends on what and how you are riding. To some guys a trail ride is gravel roads, to others its hike-a-bike that takes 9 hours to cover 50 miles I like the later, but don't have it in MI . If you are looking for trail bikes & have as little riding experience as you say you do, looking at mx bikes are not where you need to start. Try looking for an XR250 4 stroke Honda trail bike, WR250 4 stroke Yamaha trail bike, or a Kawasaki KDX 200 or 220, 2 stroke & my personal favorite, what I ride Awasome Adventurer Joined Feb 4, 2014 Oddometer 13 Thanks for showing the title prices, I couldn't find anything like that and I was looking for one hour. My type of trail riding is single track, close to trees, roots, rocks, mud, ect. I have looked at the KTM trail bikes, and I really like them, but there is not many for sale in my area at all and they are way over priced. I think I'm going to get an older YZ125 for cheap and mod it up for xc. Thank you all for your help it is very much appreciated. I just bought a 2000 YZ250 for woods use. It's a pretty hardcore MXer, and I am a "C" level rider doing slow, technical trails. Lots of streambeds, logs, almost trials-type riding, with some faster singletrack and open sections thrown in. This means in stock condition it's really a handful. To make it a woods bike, I've done the following Engine 13oz flywheel weight. This makes it less likely to stall, but isn't as huge of a difference as I was expecting. Gnarly pipe and TCII exhaust, for less noise and more low-end grunt. To make the most of these mods, I retarded the timing a couple degrees. The effect was HUGE. The hit is much smoother and less intimidating, but the low-end still tractors hard. I'm not sure how much of this was purely the timing, and how much was the timing combined with the pipe. 13T front sprocket. I'm running a 49 rear, but will go bigger on that as well, when it's time to replace it. Controls Cut the bars down 1" on each side G2 throttle cam not on yet Cycra handguards Gripper seat cover Spider Grips Suspension At first I worked with the clickers, but wasn't happy. The shock is bearable with the rebound about stock, and the LS compression all the way down. The forks are way too stiff in LS compression, even with the clickers wide-open. Springs are good for my weight, so I'm just re-valving now. The shock is going back together now, with slightly stiffened rebound, and significantly softer compression, both in the low- and mid- speed ranges. For the forks, I'll leave the rebound alone, and make a huge reduction in the LS compression. The super low-speed stuff is almost OK with the clickers wide open, but the mid-low is way too stiff. I'll deal with that by adding a stage to the base, and removing a bunch of face shims. I'll also soften the mid-valve a bunch, and maybe float it a little more, unless I get in there and something is wacky. From what I hear, the mid is just way too stiff on these forks, even for MX use. 2006+ forks are much better, and are rumored to work okay in the woods with just clicker adjustments. A re-valve is still ideal. Since I wanted to build the bike as much as ride it, I saved money by getting an older bike. If you want to save time in the garage or if you don't do much work yourself, then a 2006+ is a much better starting point. I tend to ride around off the pipe, using the real power as a reserve for hill climbs and open stretches. With a 125 I'd have to re-learn to keep the engine spinning and use the power. As I get better, I might find that more rewarding. It's certainly a more advanced way to ride, and just kinda frustrating at my current skill level in the terrain I'm in, anyway. If anyone wants to convert a YZ250 for woods use on a budget, I'd suggest 1 Re-valve yourself $30 damper rod tool, $20 in oil, maybe seals if needed 2 Dial back the timing 2-3 degrees. Just play with it until it feels good. free 3 Gear it down, at least whenever you next need a chain and sprockets free if you're replacing them anyway I'll report back on the G2 cam. It's only $55 shipped right now, and I'm hoping it'll really enhance control, especially for someone like me used to slow 4T bikes.
Apaperbedaan WR dan YZ? 1 Menjawab: Bob S. Untuk seri motor YZ adalah motor trail yang paling cocok untuk digunakan dalam kompetisi. Sedangkan WR merupakan motor trail yamaha yang lebih cocok untuk digunakan harian. Hal ini tentu tak lepas dari berbagai alasan, seperti halnya YZ sering digunakan di sirkuit motocross dan tidak perlu adanya
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